At our last exciting episode, the work on the fender continues including the fitting and welding in of the headlight support structure from the original donor fender. The plug welds were mostly complete and needed just a little dressing up. That pretty much finished up the metal work on the front of the fender. Next up was the lower rear section of the fender.
But before I go on, I have to admit to a little blogging dyslexia. I realized that the past 4 posts on the fender topic were about the "Right Front Fender" when in fact, I've been working on the LEFT front fender. I'm surprised all you Mustang manic people didn't notice! I thought about going back and retitling my previous posts, but decided to leave them the way they are just to mess with everyone. LOL. Anyway...
After doing the plug welds on the front face of the fender, I realized that I didn't do the three welds that are on the top front inside edge. It's no big deal but the welds are necessary. It didn't take much to do them and clean them up.
With this part complete for the time being, the lower rear corner was next up for repair. One of the challenges to this repair was to match the contour of the inner and outer structure so that there were no noticeable changes in the fender skin after welding in the patch. To help make sure the fit would be as close as possible, I used the right front fender as my guide. I used the contour gauge to determine the shape of the inner structural member. That meant putting the gauge between the inner support and the flange for the outer skin.
After the contour gauge was properly fitted to the fender, I transferred the form to micro-corrugated board. I now had a template I could use as a mirror for the left fender repair.
After cutting out the template, I made a trial fit. I needed to do some trimming to get it as close as possible, but it came out nicely. The "step" on the left side is the alignment point of the bottom edge of the outer skin for reference. Now that it fit the right fender, all I needed to do is "flip" the template and I was all set for part fitting on the left fender.
One issue with the fender repair was the amount of "spring" in the fender--that is the tension that was released between the outer skin and the support once the bottom welds were cut and the pieces separated. I needed to get the support structure back in position before welding. Since the right fender was my guide, I needed to make sure the inner support and the outer skin were parallel to each other. Using a scrap piece of square tubing and a C clamp remedied the problem.
Next came the fitting of the support structure. Again, using the right fender and the template, I trimmed both the fender support and the replacement piece until I had a good fit. This was quite involved since it's a 3 dimension fit--one to the support structure, one to gain the proper contour, and one to the proper length so when the outer skin was put on the bottom of the support wouldn't extend below the outer skin. This step took longer than the photo or description depicts. The closer I got the part to the final dimension, the slower and lesser material needed to be removed. After a number of trim-n-fit sessions, it was ready for welding.
It looked good in the contour position. But I also needed it to be in position for the outer skin alignment. So far...so good.
It was time to put a couple of tack welds in place and then check the position again...
I needed to tweak the contour and bend the replacement support to match the contour template. The fit was as close as I could get it...
The final position check was to make sure the part was not only parallel, but the bottom edge was an 1/8" inside what would be the outer skin of the right fender. Everything looked good.
Now it was time to start the painstaking task of welding this in position. I stopped every half dozen spot welds to check that the position remained the same. What helped was this part was heavier gauge than the outer skin.
With the spot welding near completion, I had a nice strong joint, although it wasn't the most beautiful weld job. (Make a note Dennis: Next time you do another restoration, if you do, buy a TIG welder.)
The outside surface of the support looked good with plenty of weld penetration. Also note above in the lower right side of the photo that I tried Sven's method of using heavy copper wire to get a better ground on bare metal. It did make a difference. Check it out here. I used a different gauge of 12" long wire, but I would say the results are similar providing a bigger contact patch for the ground.
I turned the fender over to check the penetration on the inside that would be hidden by the outer skin patch. I dressed up the weld joint and it looked good as well.
The next step was to trim the outer skin patch to fit the fender. I didn't show it on the top horizontal joint, but I had slipped it underneath the outer skin and used a fine Sharpie to give me a starting point on trimming the horizontal edge. This was a little tricky since I also needed to make sure the overlapping flange of the patch would align with that edge of the fender and at the same time, align the bottom edge with the skin and the structural support. Again, there were multiple fit issues that were all interconnected and simultaneous as a lot of metal replacement tends to be.
After getting the top joint close, I did the vertical joint. To define it, I again pushed it under the skin and then sprayed guide coat over the joint. When I disassembled it, I had a clean line to cut along with my rotary cut-off tool.
After that cut was made, it came down to judiciously trimming the edges until I had a little less than a 1/16" gap. This had the advantage of being able to adjust the fit as well as give good weld penetration. Here is the patch clamped in place and ready for welding. Note how nicely the edge and contour are. :- )
The bottom alignment with the fender outer skin and the support were almost dead-on. Another :- )
After the fitting of the outer skin patch and the welding of the inner support, I gave each part a cleaning and a coat of Zero-rust with a foam brush. No need to be fancy here...
I put a fan on the parts and left them to dry while I ran an errand. With the higher humidity, it took a couple of hours for them to adequately dry.
Then the process of welding the patch into place started. I needed to be extra careful to make sure that the joint of patch was "even" with the fender so that one side wasn't higher or lower creating a step in the weld joint. It probably took 4 dozen welds at least to completely fill the joint.
This edge of the fender where the patch and fender skin met was critical. Fortunate, the edges lined up and the weld didn't blow through the end of the fender.
After some more spot welding and gentle body hammer/dolly work, the almost finished product wasn't so bad. I'll end up with a little filler, but not much.
I flipped the fender over and dressed up the back side of the welds on the outer skin. Not to bad for a day's work,
I was pleased that the overlap pinch flange came out OK. That was tricky with the plug weld and the end of the joint with the edge.
I'll go back and give the fender another once-over and hopefully be done with the metal work on this beast. I'm going to hold off any of the filler work until I get it mounted to the body. and start working all the panels together.
The next project is the RIGHT fender that I discovered had a couple of rust pin holes in it. It's not where near as invasive as this fender was, but nonetheless, tracking down the elusive rust demon seems like a never ending story on a restoration.
Until the next time...
But before I go on, I have to admit to a little blogging dyslexia. I realized that the past 4 posts on the fender topic were about the "Right Front Fender" when in fact, I've been working on the LEFT front fender. I'm surprised all you Mustang manic people didn't notice! I thought about going back and retitling my previous posts, but decided to leave them the way they are just to mess with everyone. LOL. Anyway...
After doing the plug welds on the front face of the fender, I realized that I didn't do the three welds that are on the top front inside edge. It's no big deal but the welds are necessary. It didn't take much to do them and clean them up.
This is before the welds with the fender and headlight support structure clamped together. |
This is after welding and cleaning up. Sorry for the fuzzy picture. |
After the contour gauge was properly fitted to the fender, I transferred the form to micro-corrugated board. I now had a template I could use as a mirror for the left fender repair.
After cutting out the template, I made a trial fit. I needed to do some trimming to get it as close as possible, but it came out nicely. The "step" on the left side is the alignment point of the bottom edge of the outer skin for reference. Now that it fit the right fender, all I needed to do is "flip" the template and I was all set for part fitting on the left fender.
One issue with the fender repair was the amount of "spring" in the fender--that is the tension that was released between the outer skin and the support once the bottom welds were cut and the pieces separated. I needed to get the support structure back in position before welding. Since the right fender was my guide, I needed to make sure the inner support and the outer skin were parallel to each other. Using a scrap piece of square tubing and a C clamp remedied the problem.
Next came the fitting of the support structure. Again, using the right fender and the template, I trimmed both the fender support and the replacement piece until I had a good fit. This was quite involved since it's a 3 dimension fit--one to the support structure, one to gain the proper contour, and one to the proper length so when the outer skin was put on the bottom of the support wouldn't extend below the outer skin. This step took longer than the photo or description depicts. The closer I got the part to the final dimension, the slower and lesser material needed to be removed. After a number of trim-n-fit sessions, it was ready for welding.
It looked good in the contour position. But I also needed it to be in position for the outer skin alignment. So far...so good.
It was time to put a couple of tack welds in place and then check the position again...
I needed to tweak the contour and bend the replacement support to match the contour template. The fit was as close as I could get it...
The final position check was to make sure the part was not only parallel, but the bottom edge was an 1/8" inside what would be the outer skin of the right fender. Everything looked good.
Now it was time to start the painstaking task of welding this in position. I stopped every half dozen spot welds to check that the position remained the same. What helped was this part was heavier gauge than the outer skin.
With the spot welding near completion, I had a nice strong joint, although it wasn't the most beautiful weld job. (Make a note Dennis: Next time you do another restoration, if you do, buy a TIG welder.)
The outside surface of the support looked good with plenty of weld penetration. Also note above in the lower right side of the photo that I tried Sven's method of using heavy copper wire to get a better ground on bare metal. It did make a difference. Check it out here. I used a different gauge of 12" long wire, but I would say the results are similar providing a bigger contact patch for the ground.
I turned the fender over to check the penetration on the inside that would be hidden by the outer skin patch. I dressed up the weld joint and it looked good as well.
The next step was to trim the outer skin patch to fit the fender. I didn't show it on the top horizontal joint, but I had slipped it underneath the outer skin and used a fine Sharpie to give me a starting point on trimming the horizontal edge. This was a little tricky since I also needed to make sure the overlapping flange of the patch would align with that edge of the fender and at the same time, align the bottom edge with the skin and the structural support. Again, there were multiple fit issues that were all interconnected and simultaneous as a lot of metal replacement tends to be.
After getting the top joint close, I did the vertical joint. To define it, I again pushed it under the skin and then sprayed guide coat over the joint. When I disassembled it, I had a clean line to cut along with my rotary cut-off tool.
After that cut was made, it came down to judiciously trimming the edges until I had a little less than a 1/16" gap. This had the advantage of being able to adjust the fit as well as give good weld penetration. Here is the patch clamped in place and ready for welding. Note how nicely the edge and contour are. :- )
The bottom alignment with the fender outer skin and the support were almost dead-on. Another :- )
After the fitting of the outer skin patch and the welding of the inner support, I gave each part a cleaning and a coat of Zero-rust with a foam brush. No need to be fancy here...
I put a fan on the parts and left them to dry while I ran an errand. With the higher humidity, it took a couple of hours for them to adequately dry.
Then the process of welding the patch into place started. I needed to be extra careful to make sure that the joint of patch was "even" with the fender so that one side wasn't higher or lower creating a step in the weld joint. It probably took 4 dozen welds at least to completely fill the joint.
This edge of the fender where the patch and fender skin met was critical. Fortunate, the edges lined up and the weld didn't blow through the end of the fender.
After some more spot welding and gentle body hammer/dolly work, the almost finished product wasn't so bad. I'll end up with a little filler, but not much.
I flipped the fender over and dressed up the back side of the welds on the outer skin. Not to bad for a day's work,
I was pleased that the overlap pinch flange came out OK. That was tricky with the plug weld and the end of the joint with the edge.
I'll go back and give the fender another once-over and hopefully be done with the metal work on this beast. I'm going to hold off any of the filler work until I get it mounted to the body. and start working all the panels together.
The next project is the RIGHT fender that I discovered had a couple of rust pin holes in it. It's not where near as invasive as this fender was, but nonetheless, tracking down the elusive rust demon seems like a never ending story on a restoration.
Until the next time...
Nice work and great attention to alignment and contour, Dennis! No worries about right vs left. I did that MANY times in my own blog and nobody noticed (or at least didn't say anything). :-)
ReplyDeleteAnd how do you think I got the mojo to do it, Alex? I noticed!
DeleteOops!! LOL!
DeleteBrilliant work as usual Dennis! Glad to see you back in the shop!
ReplyDeleteYeah, it's good to be hands on again. I hope I'm getting to the end of the metal work and can turn the corner heading the other way as you have done.
DeleteGreat repair Dennis, looking really good. As for the left, right snafu, I have two left hands anyway. No way that I would have caught that. :P
ReplyDeleteThanks Grant. However, I discovered a "two steps forward...one step backwards" issue I'll discuss in my next post. ;- /
DeleteDennis, new poster here. For the past several months, I've been planning the attack on my 68 fastback. It's been in my garage for a couple of years, but I knew that would be the case as I prepare and plan, and it is getting closer to kicking off. Here's a question for you, but let me set the stage. My car 'seems' to be fairly rust free in the frame rails, floor pans, and the prior owner(s) attempted some restoration where most of it is covered in primer. However, I have my doubts. I do know this - the car was wrecked but repaired, and there are obvious signs, but things seem sturdy and straight. However, the seat risers are dented. The big job I see is replacing the cow, but not because it is in bad shape necessarily, but whoever did work on it grinded away the clip studs on the cowl. And here's the question. In your experience - assuming there is structural work to be done possibly in the rockers, or rails, pans, cowl and maybe front aprons, where do you start? Is it smarter to start with frame rails and rockers and pans and work down and out, or front to back? Does it even matter? Also, as you grind/sand disc to bare metal, how long did you keep the metal bare before priming? I do plan to start my blog, by the way, and yours is inspiration. I hope to not be a copy cat, but yours is good stuff. Thanks - Mike
ReplyDeleteHi Mike.
DeleteWelcome to the world of Mustang restoration. Like most of us at your stage in the project, you have similar questions regarding where to start and how to proceed. The good thing about our circle of restorers is that we’re working on similar Mustangs and learn from each other what works and sometimes what doesn’t work. I’ll give you some initial directions to go to answer some of your question.
On the Cowl pins, you may want to check out Sven’s Boss 302 blog. He developed a method to install them using a stud welder. You can get one of those on eBay or a cheap one at Harbor Freight for $100-120. It’s much cheaper than the cost of a cowl, not to mention the labor factor of drilling out a bunch of spot welds. You can see Sven’s pin installation here… http://1970boss302.blogspot.com/2013/05/replacing-roof-skin-part-3.html
If your cowl hats inside are in good shape, you may want to use Sven’s method. If there is rust inside, then check out Ivan’s full cowl replacement here… http://projectelchato.blogspot.com/2012/09/underdash-assembly-and-cowl-welding.html
As far as seat riser replacement, you can check out how I did mine here… http://1968mustangresurrection.blogspot.com/2012/08/floor-repair-part-3-drivers-side-seat.html
If you have a dry garage, you can get away with leaving the metal bare for 4-6 weeks. After tha, small pits will start to appear. Eastwood has a metal preservative that works fairly well. You can find it here… http://www.eastwood.com/evaporust-rust-bandit-rust-inhibitor-gallon.html
You said your fastback has been damaged in an accident. You didn’t mention where it was hit. But if you can see damage, especially in any of the front or rear frame rails, front crossmember, rear truck floor, etc. you may want to consider replacement of those parts. Mine was hit in the right front corner. The frame rail was OK, but the front crossmember, radiator support and front splash apron were damaged and rusted. You can see that process I went through here… http://1968mustangresurrection.blogspot.com/2011/04/jumping-ahead.html
There are several posts that cover the work done on this part of the car.
Like I said before, there are a number of us doing this work. One of the guys has pretty much finished his 68 convertible. He did a ton of work on it and did an excellent job of photos and documentation. You can check out his blog here… http://68vert.blogspot.com/ You could spend a couple of weeks reading through it, but it would be worth the time.
Speaking of time, take all you need to find out what others have done. Don’t rush into it. Determine how you want to proceed and make a plan. Document EVERYTHING with photos before disassembly. Bag and tag everything. You may not use those parts, but they could come in handy for a guide later. Documentation also will help in the overall value of the car post-restoration.
I’ll be looking forward to seeing your blog and your Mustang!!!